Kara Goucher and Paula Radcliffe are best known for their dominance on the roads: Radcliffe, the indomitable Brit who has won the ING New York City Marathon three times in the past six years, and Goucher, the gutsy American who has shown amazing strength in every event from the mile to the marathon. But these days, the women have something even more remarkable in common than course records and top-of-the-podium performances: They are both pregnant and due on the same day in September. And this shared experience has shifted their relationship from competitors to the closest of friends-the pair even trained together earlier in their pregnancies in Goucher’s home base of Portland, OR. New York Runner recently sat down with Radcliffe and Goucher, their bodies still lithe and toned despite their basketball-size bellies, and talked about the excitement of the months ahead—and beyond.
NYR: Paula, you set the bar extremely high when you ran through your pregnancy with Isla and then won the ING New York City Marathon just 10 months later. Are you following the same game plan this time around?
PR: Every pregnancy is different, so I can’t say for sure whether I’ll be able to do the same exact plan this time. I’d like to keep running for as long as I can, but if I can’t, I’ll make adjustments. Last time I do think I came back a little too soon and aggravated an injury that had been developing, which led to a sacral stress fracture. So I’ll have to wait and see how I feel.
NYR: How have you tweaked your training during pregnancy?
KG: It’s funny, because originally I thought I’d keep up the same workouts, just with slower times. But I soon realized that this was just not going to happen. I really had to lessen the intensity of my workouts. So instead of doing eight times one mile on the track, we’ll do 200-meter repeats. Or I’ll do mile repeats on an Alter-G treadmill [which minimizes gravitational forces by suspending the runner in a harness]. Everything is scaled back.
PR: Mileage-wise, I’ve cut back by about 50 percent, and I’m still doing basic core workouts and lifting weights. It’s just about getting out there and doing something, about staying fit and staying sane. I’m not trying to hit times.
NYR: Kara, are you in agreement with Paula about pace, or are you still trying to maintain specific paces in your workouts?
KG: To be honest, pace doesn’t matter. One day, I did a six-mile tempo run at 4:55 [per mile] on the Alter-G. The next day, I did an eight-mile run at 7:30 pace. I can’t get hung up on that, since it varies so much day to day.
NYR: Doctors generally advise women not to exceed a heart rate of 150 beats per minute during pregnancy. Is this something you’re very mindful of when you’re running?
KG: Definitely. Paula’s first bit of advice to me was that I had to really pay attention to my heat rate monitor. We were doing a track workout once, and we actually walked between our intervals to slow down our heart rates. Never, in all of the years I’ve been running, have I done that before!
NYR: What else has surprised you about pregnancy?
KG: Mostly how tired I am. Some days, even if I just go out for an easy run, I’ll be completely exhausted.
PR: That’s so true. No matter how hard we train, and no matter how many marathons we’ve run, nothing compares to pregnancy. And that was really surprising to find out. That’s why it was so nice to have Kara to train with, especially in the first trimester when we were really feeling that exhaustion. We were able to get each other out of the house even when we really didn’t feel like it.
NYR: Seeing that you both are at the height of your careers, did you have any anxiety about taking time off to have a baby?
KG: My husband [2000 U.S. Olympian Adam Goucher] and I got married in 2001, and he wanted a baby right away. But for a while, I worried about missing out on big races or having to take a break from the sport. Finally, after last year’s World Championships, we knew it was the right time. There was no anxiety anymore. I knew it was time and I felt completely comfortable with it.
PR: Obviously, there is a lot of planning involved when you’re a professional runner who is starting up or expanding your family. Still, there’s never going to be a perfect time, and we just went with the timing that felt right to us. My whole thing is that I didn’t want to be an old mum—I didn’t want to wait until I was retired from running to have kids. I also never saw pregnancy and being a mum as the end of my career; I never saw that the desire to run hard would die in me just because I have a child. So for me, being pregnant and giving birth is a sacrifice you make, but it’s so worth it that it doesn’t even feel like a sacrifice. Being a mum makes me fulfilled, and I feel like if I am happy and balanced in my life, I will run better.
NYR: You’re obviously both committed to continuing at a high level post-baby. What’s your plan for returning to racing?
KG: I have a perfect scenario in my head—where I don’t have any setbacks and I can start running right away—but I’m not committed to it. At first, I thought I’d be able to come back for a spring marathon, but of course that means I’d have to do a half-marathon five weeks out, and I don’t know if I’d be ready for it. I know for sure that I will keep running. Running is who I am, and even if I’m tired and sleep-deprived, I am going to be out there.
PR: I’m not setting any big goals. I started training again 12 days after Isla, which may happen again, but may not. Because of my rough experience with having Isla [she underwent a grueling 27-hour labor], I am a candidate for a C-Section, so that could throw everything off a bit if I can’t run for six weeks. What I learned from having Isla is that it’s really important to listen to my body and heed any warning signs of injury. I’ll just take it day by day, and I’ll know when I’m ready to race.
Two days after this interview, Paula Radcliffe ran the NYRR New York Mini 10K in a relaxed 44 minutes, talking with other racers and encouraging them on the hills. When she had about 50 meters to go, her daughter, Isla, and Kara Goucher joined her from the side of the road, and the three crossed the finish line together.
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